On The Metal Highway - A Talk With John Bush of Anthrax
Backstage Pass Special
with Debbie Seagle
Out on that metal highway in the Rock
N World, we met up with John Bush, lead singer of Anthrax. Just finishing
up a short tour for their latest CD, "Return of The Killer A's,"
they packed venues in each stop on the way with their energy charged antics.
John talks about the past, the present and the future of
and gives us an insight into his reunion with Armored Saint.
N World: Iím here today to talk to you about the short tour that
you folks are on. Youíre touring in support of "Return of the
Killer Aís," and thatís kind of a greatest hits CD, but not really.
It has some added things to it, doesnít it?
John Bush: Well, it is, its
just got a couple of twists. We threw a couple remixes on instead
of the original versions from the records. The songs "Potterís
Field" and "Hy Pro Glo." Thereís obviously the track that
Joey Belladonna and I did together, which is a cover of the Temptations
song "Ball of Confusion," which has never been recorded by the band.
And you know, little nooks and crannies in there that we threw in like
a little small portion of a song that we did on the "Stomp (442)"
record that has like a minute of it. You know, whatever. We
canít do everything conventionally. You have to always be a little
RNW: Thatís kind of what makes
you Anthrax. Thatís what your fans like.
JB: Absolutely. Thatís
RNW: So how did the tunes
get selected for this project? Did somebody come up with an idea
for what they wanted and pass it by you?
JB: No, it was a collective
decision by the band and it was pretty obvious, for the most part, really,
what the most popular songs were. We actually probably left off a
couple tracks that could have been on the record even. But we filled
up pretty much all the minutes on it. Thereís like 72 or 74 minutes
on it so if we wanted to add more songs, we would have to add another CD
and we donít want to do that. In my opinion, its the kind of thing
where, even if you donít own one Anthrax record, this is the record to
get because its a historical view of the band throughout the years and
combines the greatest hits, so to speak.
RNW: And the remastering of
the old stuff.
JB: And remastering, thatís
right. And so that obviously makes the old stuff sound even better.
RNW: Now this is a short tour
that youíre doing now, a little over three weeks.
JB: Yeah, its about three
and a half weeks.
RNW: Was that because everyone
had other projects coming up?
JB: No, originally, the plan
was doing this dual singer thing that fell through. I donít know
if you are aware of that, but Iím sure you are. And we just didnít
really know how the public was going to take to it and we didnít want to
over extend ourselves. We thought we were doing something different
and unusual but we didnít want to go out there and book eight weeks of
dates and have it not go the way we wanted it to. So we were taking
baby steps in regards to that. So thatís the only reason. I
mean we flirted with the idea of maybe going back out in April and doing
more dates, I donít know yet, weíll see. Thereís a lot of the country
that we havenít covered. We missed the whole state of Texas, the
RNW: You jumped around quite
a bit, I noticed on the schedule.
JB: Yeah, we went from Milwaukee
to Denver to San Diego.
RNW: But thank God (pointing
to the blue sky)
JB: You know, it might be
a little easier to play in San Diego than it is in Milwaukee, although
the crowd in Milwaukee was far superior to the crowd in San Diego.
RNW: Well, Iím from the midwest,
and we are a rock & roll area . . .
JB: Absolutely! People
were asking me, "What do you think of the weather?" and Iím like, "Its
January, weíre in the midwest." Its not like I came here expecting
it to be a balmy 80 degrees.
RNW: The personnel issues
with putting the tour together have been reported about aggressively and
I didnít think you wanted to talk about that again, so . . .
JB: Thatís cool.
RNW: But, you know, Joeyís
in, Joeyís out. Paulís in, then Daveís in and youíve got this stuff
going on. Have you noticed any kind of a difference in the reception
from the audiences at the gigs you have played, than what you expected
because of the personnel changes, or are they just so damn glad to see
Anthrax out on the road?
JB: You know, I donít know.
The tour, weíre doing better numbers than weíve done in the last couple
of years, really. I donít know if that has something to do with peopleís
expectations of Joey Belladonna coming back or if its just better visibility
for Anthrax right now because of our new label, or if its a good climate
right now. Or people missed us, I donít know. It could be all
of the above. Iíve asked the other guys, because I donít think anyoneís
going to come up to me and go "We miss Joey
Belladonna." I donít
think theyíre going to tell me that. However, I donít think people
are not coming to the show because he didnít come. I think that might
have brought in a little extra enthusiasm in the beginning, but I donít
think that people are not coming because heís not here.
RNW: It could have gone totally
the other way too though.
JB: Whatís that?
RNW: You know, people coming
out in support of the band. I think things have been kind of mixed.
Iíve been trolling around the chat rooms and the message boards and basically,
I think a lot of the fans are just saying, weíre here for Anthrax, you
JB: Yeah, I mean, for me its
whatever. Business as usual. I mean, Iíve been with the band
eight years, and weíre going out and playing, you know. The only
thing that was going to be different, I was going to have to sing less
songs. I would have had a lot less hoarse voice than I do.
RNW: Thatís sexy, donít worry
JB: No, but it doesnít matter
to me. I think in the end, it was an error, but its over with now.
Its like whatever, I donít want to talk about it. I think that we
had great gigs and we had great shows and its kind of onward and forward.
RNW: There seems to have been
a rash of these weird personnel things happening in the metal/hard rock
genre, have you noticed?
JB: A couple people have said
that to me just recently.
RNW: You know, since New Years
Eve. Weíve had White Snake, they lost a singer or guitarist.
JB: You mean David Coverdale?
There was talk about him joining Van Halen. I donít know if thatís
true or not.
RNW: I donít think thatís
true because now Iíve heard that . . . well, never mind. Iíll tell
ya later. Okay, Megadeth . . .
JB: Yeah, Marty Freidman is
RNW: Then weíve got Third
JB: Oh, was there a personnel
RNW: Stranding their guitarist
in Utah or something.
JB: Really, wow, that sounds
like it hurt!
RNW: And then lately, Poison.
JB: Poison, what happened
RNW: C.C. took off.
Allegedly the band wouldnít let his other band open for them and he got
mad and split.
JB: Yikes! Everyoneís
RNW: What do you think it
is? Is it the environment that the metal/hard rock genre moves in
that causes a lot more friction? You donít hear that much, it seems
like, outside of our circle. Then all of the sudden, everyoneís just
JB: I donít know, I mean I
have no answer for that, I really donít. I know in our situation,
the Joey thing aside, because whatever, whatís up with Paul is Paul has
never been a legitimate member of Anthrax. Iím personally on the
fence about it anyway because I love Paul dearly. I think heís an
awesome person and he contributed a lot more to this band than we probably
would even give him credit for. But, basically he had to look out
for himself, and we had down time in 1999 and everybody kind of wanted
to do a lot of different things in that time, including myself. And
so did he. And he got an opportunity to go tour with Sebastian and
the tours conflicted a little bit and he made a commitment to him, and
I donít blame him, so he had to go do it. It just seems ironic that
Snake is a friend of the bandís, heís a friend of Anthraxís, particularly
Frankie and Paul. Paul was nice enough to make an effort to inquire
about a few guitar players, and since it was only a few shows, we like
the idea of somebody who had a name and getting somebody who could be like,
"wow, cool, heís playing with Anthrax" for a few shows, and I embraced
that because I think it will be cool and Daveís a great guy too.
Its just a coincidence.
RNW: Didnít you extend the
tour? It wasnít supposed to last until February 12th originally.
JB: Yeah, it was originally
going to end on the 2nd and we had some conflicts. We had a couple
of shows that conflicted with others that we didnít want to compete with.
So we added it and we moved the LA date to the 12th, which ended up being
better for us cause its a Saturday night now and we added Seattle, Vancouver,
Portland, you know, Pacific northwest. We could probably add four
weeks if we wanted to, it just didnít work out that way.
RNW: But Paul was slated to
go to his next gig already.
JB: Yeah, he made a commitment
to Sebastian before the Anthrax tour even got together, so that was understandable.
As to why all this stuff is going on, I donít know.
RNW: I have this secret theory
that they are all gathering somewhere together and they are like . .
okay, theyíve got a couple guitarists now, theyíve got a singer . . .
JB: Youíre a big X Files fan,
RNW: (Laughs) Okay,
they need a drummer and they need a bass player. Weíre going to watch
and see what happens with that.
JB: I think regardless, you
should create this situation . . . people would love it!
RNW: Iíll start a rumor and
then I can promote the band!
JB: That sounds good.
RNW: Why do you think Anthrax
is still able to get together after an 18 year history, put together these
tours, put together the project you just did and keep going? You
know, 18 years is a long history for a band in this day and age.
Whatís special about Anthrax and about the chemistry of this mix that makes
you guys able to do that after all this time?
JB: Well lately, what Iíve
been saying is "Anthrax is legendary." Thatís my new saying lately,
cause I believe that the band really is. So, I mean, you know probably
most of that, or a lot of that came prior to me being in the band.
So its not like Iím saying Iím legendary. Its that just being a part
of this, I feel that way. I think because the band has always challenged
themselves and done things not really caring too much about what people
are going to say. Sometimes things are done and the public doesnít
respond positively. But regardless, the band did it. Thatís
just the type of band this is and I think thatís the kind of thing it usually
takes to have longevity in this business.
RNW: Taking those risks?
JB: I think so. You
know, thatís what being an artist is all about. You know, who wants
to be safe? I find that boring.
RNW: Eventually, the listeners,
your fans will too.
JB: Yeah, they do too.
Especially nowadays, everyoneís got tunnel vision. Everyoneís narrow
minded - not narrow minded, but just say the attention span is a lot less.
Because thereís just a lot of things cluttered up. I just think that
this band is willing to do that and because of that, thatís why thereís
longevity and it seems that people embrace it.
RNW: With all the other projects
the band has going on, what do you think the future is for Anthrax?
JB: Well I donít know.
Weíve got to sit down and discuss that. Because we have a tendency
to not converse as well as we should - its the truth.
RNW: You mean sit down with
JB: Yeah, thatís probably
what it comes down to. Sitting down and making sure everyone is happy
with whatever is going on beyond Anthrax and making sure all those things
can be done correctly, without sacrificing anything. We need to do
that, hopefully within the next couple of days, maybe even tonight.
So you never really know. We really need to address that because
. . .
RNW: Youíll scoop me on that,
right? If something happens tonight, you will take me aside tonight
and let me know, right?
JB: (Laughing) No, no, no,
nothing dramatic or drastic is going to happen . . .
RNW: How happy is your drummer?
JB: I donít know, heís not
really ever that completely happy, really. Thatís what makes him
real special . . . thatís pretty funny!
RNW: Iím telling you, Iím
watching this, looking for a drummer for my mega band . . .
JB: Thatís pretty funny .
RNW: Is a studio album in
the future for Anthrax?
JB: I donít know, sure, we
need to make one. Yeah, obviously weíd like to see if we can get
one out by the end of the year I think. Thatís a goal.
RNW: Okay, cool. Going
along with the theme that we were talking about, trying different things
and keeping going, do you think Anthrax is evolving in their music?
In their approach to creating music? Thereís been a lot of evolution
in the industry, style, media, promotion, even lifestyle. Think about
how our lifestyles have changed since the 80s.
JB: See, thatís exactly what
I always say. When people say "Is your record going to be different"
or "Why is your record different?" I always say because Iím different.
You know, when you make a record, its getting old to me to say this because
I say it a lot but it makes the most sense, a record is a reference of
time. Thatís the way I look at it. And you make a record based
on what you were thinking and feeling when you were writing and making
that record. And then a year passes and you tour and you do this
and you go on. Who knows, maybe you get married, fall in love, who
knows. Whatever happens, you get into yoga, I donít know, whatever.
Something changes your life, and then you make another record and your
life is different, so your music should be different as well. I think
its constantly evolving and that makes sense to me. I donít understand
why bands would make the same record year after year. To me that
doesnít make any sense because Iím not the same person year after year.
Iím constantly growing as a person. So thatís how I look at it, and
I think that this band has done that amazingly well and I think the
best way to see that is to look at our greatest hits record. You
got songs like "Madhouse," which was awesome, and "Killer"
in 1985 and "Bring The Noise" in 1991 and "Only" in 1993 and now
"Inside Out" in 1998. And you see progression and you see
how they related to the time, but it all sounds like Anthrax. So
I think when you can achieve that, thatís the ultimate.