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RNW: As pioneers of the metal/rap
or rap core rock genre, you were one of the first bands to introduce that
JB: One of the first bands,
RNW: I think you are pretty
much, generally credited with that.
JB: Well Aerosmith and Run
DMC kind of did the "Walk This Way" thing too, at the same time.
But yeah, I agree, and this was before I was in the band.
RNW: So It happened in 1991
and you joined the band in 1992.
JB: Actually, it happened
in 1986 with "Iím The Man," that was the first time the band really
RNW: Do you think that there
are other genres that can fuse with metal or hard rock? Do you see
any other possibilities coming down the pike?
JB: Yeah, people have done
that and they continue to do things and thereís an element of music thatís
really interesting when people are doing that. Like the new Moby
record, you know how heís kind of brought in the techno thing with some
of the kind of gospel samples, which is really creative. So yeah,
I think thereís a place for that. It should just always be a natural
thing. You know, if it feels right to do it, then you do it.
I donít think the band is sitting around going "Okay, whatís the next thing
to do?" I think that gets a little calculated.
RNW: It can kind of go along
with what your personal music tastes have been. I mean, you are metal
artists, but you have different influences.
JB: You know, the strange
thing about Anthrax, I think that with Anthrax, one of the biggest problems
of the bandís career is that the band has been ahead of its time on numerous
things. Whether its the rap/metal thing or . . . I mean I even
listened to the remix of "Potterís Field" and it sounds like what
Powerman 5000 is doing right now. So we did that with Al Jourgensen
five years ago, or eight years ago now, almost. But thatís life and
you just do it and you do what feels natural and I think as long as you
are being true to yourself and going "I really like this" and "I really
like the cut weíre doing, melding these two things or these three things
together," and it feels natural, then do it. My only observation,
the only problem I sometimes have is when its formulated. And when
people are trying to go, "Lets do this because this is the thing to do."
I hate to say it, but a couple bands who are doing the rap/metal thing
right now seems to do exactly that. I wonít mention names, but to
me it seems extremely calculated. I mean you can see it. You
can see through it. It seems fraudulent. It seems fake.
To me it does. Maybe it doesnít to some 15 year old kid, but to me
it does. Whatever, thatís just how I view it, whatever. Power
to the people, you know? Hey, Iím not here to tell people what they
should do or not do. Iím just saying this works for me, and this
is what I think is cool for me and the band.
RNW: I think some of the newer
bands should be showing Anthrax and Aerosmith some monetary propers for
pioneering that . . .
JB: Yeah, you know whatever.
What are you going to do, go "Hey we were the first?" Inventors,
people who are innovative are usually the people that didnít or werenít
the ones who were the recipients of the money anyway. Edgar Allen
Poe was dead and buried before people discovered his work. Died in
poverty, which a lot of artists do. Iím not saying that weíre in
poverty by any means, we wouldnít be here at the beautiful (hotel) in Santa
Ana if we were in poverty! Weíd be on the freeway.
RNW: Switching gears just
a little bit, you came to Anthrax from Armored Saint, and the last buzz
that I heard was back in September of 1999 that you guys were working on
a project (Armored Saint). Whereís that at?
JB: That record is done, it
comes out March 7th, and it was a fun filled project primarily because
of the history of the relationship between myself and a couple members
of the band who grew up together. We were literally elementary school
mates together, so thereís a long history of friendship and it just
was the right time. We had some down time in Anthrax and everyone
kind of did some different things. I had an opportunity to do it,
Joey Vera the bass player and I are best friends and so we got a chance
to rekindle our friendship and write a bunch of tunes and they ended up
being really, really good. So we made this record and I donít know
whatís going to happen yet. Iím trying to keep that as stress free
as possible because . . .
RNW: So you have not done
anything about setting up tours or anything like that?
JB: No, not yet. Thereís
talk here and there, but like I said, weíve got to figure out everybodyís
schedule and I donít know. We havenít made a record (with Armored
Saint) in eight years. I donít know what the response is going to
be from the public, you know?
RNW: Is it fair to say that
Anthrax is your primary focus and Armored Saint is now your side project?
JB: Yeah, kinda, exactly.
Thatís how I look at it, and to me that keeps it really, like I said, stress
free. I spent eight or nine, ten years in Armored Saint. Started
in 1982-1983 and broke up in 1991. Actually, broke up in 1992, but
for the most part I have beautiful memories of that, but there were a lot
of woeful times. It was just difficult because a lot of errors were
made. So I donít want to relive that. The idea of doing this
record is really a pleasurable experience. It was awesome and I think
we made a killer record. Everyoneís going to be like, wow, really
blown away. Most people are that have heard it. Theyíre like
wow. So as long as we keep that really kind of lacks, then I wonít
feel that kind of pressure all the years of being in that band. I
donít want to feel that way. I just wonít. I wonít do it.
RNW: Iím going to keep my
ears open on that one.
JB: Yeah, Iím sure youíll
get a copy.
RNW: Youíll see me again if
you are on the road for that one, and Iíll do your Rolling Stone cover.
JB: Oh yeah.
RNW: There are a couple other
things you are doing right now that Iíve read about. Tell me about
Rock House and your involvement in it.
JB: Rock House is a
club that my friend Dan Devito, who is here tonight, and myself do every
Friday night at The Garage in Silver Lake. Its just a rock
and roll club and we have a DJ who spins like, a bunch of hard rock and
metal, and we have a bunch of different bands play everything from Babyland
to Stanford Prison Experiment to local metal bands. We do all
different kinds of things there so its been a lot of fun. Spent most
of the times there drunk on Friday night.
RNW: Sounds like a good time.
JB: We have a great time.
We have a really good time and it keeps me tied to the street and it keeps
me aware of up and coming bands and then eventually, its still in its embryonic
stage but Iím working with Nikki Sixxí (of Motley Crue) record label Americoma,
doing some A & R kind of stuff for them. Thatís kind of the next
area or phase of my life I think I want to get into because Iím into seeking
talent because I think I can spot good talent. I have to start thinking
what Iím going to do because Iím getting old.
RNW: Its better than the alternative.
JB: Getting dead?
RNW: Not getting old is not
good . . .
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