All that Remains' Jeanne Sagan
Following up 2004's This Darkened Heart
with another scorching CD, The Fall of Ideals, All That Remains
looks to really leap into the forefront of metal. Jeanne Sagan has filled
in on bass for the band on the last few tours and was invited to be a full-time
member prior to recording this record. I spoke to her after the band had
just secured a rental car, following the breakdown of their tour bus enroute
to a show.
antiMUSIC: Congratulations on the new
record --- it's just excellent. I'm kind of new to the band and I've heard
bits and pieces of the older stuff and this new one just blows it all away.
There is a real diversity to the vocals, going from growling to actual
singing, and a variety of sound of the material such as "Six" with the
melodic guitar passages. Was there a real intent going into the studio
to vary the sound this time out?
Jeanne: I had nothing to do with
any of the other records so coming into this we were recording with a different
drummer than the last record. And I'm new so kinda whatever came out is
what we went with. We're all just kinda full of different styles and sounds,
so that's just a mingling of all the ideas.
antiMUSIC: How long did the material
take to come together and what were the sessions like for this record?
Jeanne: Well, we got off tour beginning
of December, so we had like two months to write. Then we got on the Arch
Enemy tour. So basically two months before we went into the studio is what
antiMUSIC: How did you come to join
Jeanne: Laughs. How did I? Let me
see. I was working on sound last summer for Prosthetics Records, doing
the whole merch table thing. And I don't know, I know them from home, we're
all from the same area. I had played with bands that had played with them.
Around here it's kinda like a cool scene, everybody knows everybody. I
was at the right place at the right time. Pretty much they just needed
someone, so I jumped into the van the day after sound, did a tour.
antiMUSIC: What were you up to prior
to All That Remains? What is your musical background?
Jeanne: It's funny how ended up
doing the merch thing because I had moved out to Arizona thinking I was
done with Massachusets and I'm just getting away, but then I met someone
at the record label and I just started helping out. It's kinda weird how
all that happened. Got away just to come right back.
antiMUSIC: How long have you been playing?
Jeanne: I've been playing for about
7 years. Pretty much when I was in college, picked it up, started playing
in bands, just right away started jamming. Never played bass before. All
the way through high school, I played trumpet, so I have a musical background,
a little bit different but…
antiMUSIC: Did you grow up in a musical
Jeanne: Not really. Pretty much
picked up instruments in six grade you could choose one, so I picked trumpet.
And that's pretty much how I started getting involved in it. My little
brother is pretty into music. He does DJing and he's toured with bands
doing that. But it's funny, the two of us have similar lives, but he lives
in Colorado, but I haven't seen him. I dunno, he hasn't lived at home in
like ten years. So I guess it kinda runs in the family. It's kinda weird
to say that.
antiMUSIC: What was it like working
with Adam from Killswitch on this record? He's pretty crazy on a stage.
What's he like behind the sound board?
Jeanne: He's pretty much the same
personality. He's just awesome and amazing. I mean when it comes to music
he's like a genius, as far as sound, and knowing when to pick up a beat,
and little things here and there that he has such an ear for. And I had
a good time, I had only recorded once before, and it's my first full length.
And I was really nervous going into it, but him just being him made it
easy and I had a good time the last and got it over with I guess. (laughs)
My great experience. I had only recorded an EP before with one of my other
bands. So this is all new to me, this whole touring thing, recording, it's
still weird. I'm having a blast. It's funny now when I'm sitting around
at home, I want to be out playing, and I'm so exciting. (laughs) Home seems
so boring now. Yeah. In the last five years I've watched my friends in
Unearth and Shadows Fall and Killswitch go out, and I'd be on tour so I'd
never see them. So now I know pretty much what goes on when they leave
for months and months. Now I'm going, that's awesome!
antiMUSIC: Is there any significance
to the title 'The Fall of Ideals'?
Jeanne: The idea pretty much having
people having pre-registered thoughts, and how your ideal should be or
how something should sound. And that's pretty much how we went about the
angle of the whole album. Just kinda did our own thing. I don't know. People
have this ideal of what the next record should sound like. Or who we are
as people. I dunno. It kind of just ties it all together.
antiMUSIC: You're just back from the
European Sounds of the Underground tour. How did that go?
Jeanne: That was amazing. I mean,
the shows weren't as huge as to be expected, but I had a great time just
hanging out with the other bands and just meeting everyone there. Everyone
there was just so nice. The crew working for us was really nice so it was
cool just to hang out. A lot of the places we played, the other bands had
already gone through so it was a lot of trying to convince people and putting
on a show and getting your music out there. Some places people are just
staring at you because they've never heard you before. So it was kinda
cool to spread it, laying things down for the next time we go over there
antiMUSIC: You toured with Unearth and
now you're going out with them for a few dates before joining Ozzfest.
How do you get along with those guys?
Jeanne: Amazingly. I've known them
for a long time so it was just awesome. Like the bass player I've known
pretty much since I've been playing, so seven years. It's a lot like home.
I get nervous about meeting a lot of people so that's why another reason
why the underground sound is awesome cuz we were sure about them, we already
knew them. And they're great band. I've always listened to them. So I'm
stoked as far as musicianship, and then just hanging out with them is great,
cuz they're just nice guys.
antiMUSIC: What are you expecting out
of the Ozzfest experience and who are you most looking forward to seeing?
Jeanne: Definitely Dragonforce.
I'm amped on them right now. I know everybody talks about them but they're
huge. I saw them when we were in England with Trivium, and they were playing
in the same town. So we went and saw them and they were at the Metal Fest,
and I got to see them there too. So I'm really excited to see them on an
even bigger stage. Hopefully they'll have their trampolines. I cannot wait.
As far as all the other bands go, I've pretty much seen everybody a million
times. I haven't seen System, and Disturbed, I don't really care for. Yeah.
I cannot wait. Like I said, I'm new to this whole thing. So every tour
I go around, everything…I just run straight ahead. I'm just really excited.
antiMUSIC: Many bass players have a
special relationship with the drummer in the band because they work together
more so than the rest of the band. Was it hard locking into a groove with
Jeanne: It's funny because Shannon
was one of the first people to talk me into staying in the band cause I
was only just going to fill in, so he just kept talking about, saying you
should do it, just try, blah, blah. And he was like my biggest supporter.
So we have a sort of kinship that way. He took a little leave of absence
(laughs) that's what we're calling it, because he didn't come to Europe
with us. But he wanted to come back, he missed playing, but he had a lot
of personal issues. So when he wanted to come back, all I could do was
support him. So I guess we have a bit of a special relationship, much of
a pain in the ass that he could be, but I actually love playing with him.
And I didn't realise that until we were playing with another drummer, how
solid he is, and how much better I play because of how solid his beats
are; makes me better and makes all of our sound better. Once the bass and
drums are on, then everything else falls into place.
antiMUSIC: For those of us that are
new to the band, can you tell us a bit about the other members:
Jeanne: Phil Labonte -Vocals: Phil
is sitting right next to me so it's a little of awkward. (Phil: "All he
does is run his mouth, screw him."). He's just hyper. He's loud like that
all the time. He's the reason the band is what he is. He's pretty much
Mike Martin - Guitars: Mike likes chicken
wings and working out. And he likes playing guitar somewhat (laughs). Apparently,
he didn't write anything on This Darkened Heart, and this album he wrote
2…2 and a half songs.
Oli Herbert - Guitars: He's a musical genius.
But sometimes we have to watch out for him, because he goes on walks by
himself and we can't find him for hours. But he's just out wandering because
that's what he does. He's already practicing, he's amazing. I'm definitely
learning a lot from him. I've never really sat down with him and learned
about chords and notes, I still don't really know notes, but the more I
play with him the more I get from him, because he's a teacher so naturally
I ask him tips here and there. How do I get this fingering better, and
bam he already has a good way to do it. He gives me exercises, so he's
amazing. I'm learning a lot, just overall, from everybody.
Shannon Lucas - Drums: Shannon's Shannon.
He's the youngest, so he's kinda like the little brother. Kinda make sure
they're on time, he's the ladies man. He's definitely the ladies man. Young
and cute and plays in a band, and he has lots of tattoos, so girls kinda
flock to him and he gives them cutesy waves. He knows how to reel them
antiMUSIC: Anything else you would like
to tell us about yourself or the new record that I didn't ask?
Jeanne: No, I guess that's everything.
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for doing this.
Morley Seaver and antiMUSIC thank Jeanne
for taking the time to do this interview.
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